Indian Weapons In Swat & FATA, India's State Government

Indian Weapons In Swat & FATA, India's State Government Sponsored Terrorism In Pakistan

Thursday, 18 June 2009 00:00

While the Pakistani government is reluctant to confront the Americans about the activities of America’s Indian allies, the Pakistani military has given the Americans solid evidence about the activities of Indian intelligence in Pakistan’s tribal belt and Swat. These activities appear to be facilitated by the Karzai regime and the U.S. military and intelligence. The latest discovery of Indian weapons inside Pakistan is the Indian army standard issue Vicker-Berthier light machine gun.

The Pakistani military through its own channels has shared evidence with the U.S. military about Indian support for terrorism in Pakistan’s tribal belt and Swat.

The evidence was embarrassing for the Americans because they have been defending Indian presence in Afghanistan and have also been defending the opening up of Indian consulates in areas close to the Pakistani border.

More embarrassing for the Americans is that besides some Indian weapons and the proof on the presence of Indian-origin special forces personnel and assets, a large amount of standard issue U.S. military weapons have been confiscated by the Pakistanis from dead terrorists. Washington is explaining this by saying these weapons were sold on the black market by the U.S.-trained new Afghan army. But the quality of the weapons – including anti-aircraft guns and launchers – and their quantity eliminates the possibility that smuggling is the only explanation.

The Pakistani government is reluctant to make the evidence public, possibly because it does not want a confrontation with the Indians and the Americans. But the Pakistani military has made its strategic red lines clear.

This is one explanation for why U.S. Undersecretary of State William Burns raised for the first time in New Delhi last week the need to “trim” the Indian consulates working in Afghanistan, among other things.

A number of the Indian army standard issue Vickers-Berthier (VB) light machine gun, manufactured in India, have been found by the Pakistani military in the hands of the terrorists in Swat. This LMG has a 30-round box magazine and a bipod stand, and is sometimes mistaken for the Bren. Apart from India, it was only sold to a few Baltic and South American states. The picture here has been procured by BRASSTACKS from its own sources in Swat.

In addition to weapons and local assets, a large number of trained special operations personnel working for intelligence agencies are believed to be moving along with the local recruits of the Pakistani Taliban. These foreign operators pose as ‘Islamic fighters’. These foreigners are in addition to foreign fighters that have existed in the area before 2001. The mysterious new foreigners are believed to have introduced in Pakistan actions such as group throat slittings, mass executions, brutal murders, and kidnapping, molesting and raping of women of the poor villagers in the tribal belt in the name of religion. Pakistani soldiers have been consistently discovering uncircumcised dead terrorist fighters in the area over the past three years, something unusual for a militia fighting in the name of Islam. Pictures were posted on on here previously of the latest discovery of such fighters. Pictures below.

http://www.daily.pk/images/stories/news/people/indian_hindu_fighting_in_swat.jpg

http://www.daily.pk/images/stories/news/people/indian_hindu_terrorists_fighting_in_swat_pakistan.jpg

The bulk of the heavy weapons, communications equipment and huge stacks of cash owned by the so-called Pakistani Taliban are all supplied by unknown sources in Afghanistan. The size of this entire enterprise precludes the possibility that this is the work of unorganized elements. Supporting evidence suggests that there is more than one intelligence agency in Afghanistan involved in this operation.

It is unthinkable that the Indians would risk sending Indian-made weapons to terrorists. It is believed that these weapons were sent in small numbers to a select group of operatives who slipped from Afghanistan to Pakistan’s tribal belt. The most probable thinking might have been that the agents operating these weapons will not fight on the front lines and will not be captured. Obviously the foreign backers of the so-called Pakistani Taliban did not anticipate that the Pakistani military might at some go for an all-out war against these terrorists by draining the swamp, which means emptying up Swat from its civilian population in order to have a free hand against the terrorists. Ahmed Quraishi

We don't expect a box of chocolate from the enemy. Do we?
As long as we love and respect our country and form unity amongst our ranks no one can harm us.
The intelligence agency has to be more vigilant.

Aymu

The army claimed that 38 militants had been killed and six captured during operations in different areas of Malakand division and South Waziristan on Friday and Saturday.

Six soldiers, including an officer, lost their lives. Seventeen soldiers, a junior commissioned officer among them, were injured.

According to the ISPR, security forces secured Kotlai, Chungai and Zara Khela areas of Swat and launched an operation in Dagai.

Three terrorists, including a brother of militant commander Yousaf, were arrested near Peochar. A complex of four tunnels was destroyed.

Troops cleared the villages of Babu and Shakardarra, captured three terrorists and defused three improvised explosive devices.

Militants ambushed a vehicle of security forces on Udigram-Akhun Kalle road in Swat. Three soldiers lost their lives and seven suffered injuries in the attack.

Terrorists fired rockets in Shahdand Banda, Devolai and Totan Banda areas and injured three soldiers. Six militants were killed in the exchange of fire with security forces.

But Our govt is also part of this big game. Allah Pakistan par raham karay.

^ Thank you!

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Che Lewaney Gerzema, Gham Me Hejran Dai

Malamat Neyem Khalgo, Yaar Pe Ma Graan Dai

The Islamic countries have all completely lost it. We cannot keep blaming other countries for everything, because we are also responsible for our state ourselves, somewhere. Let's just do Duwa that our government understands what Islam is about and follow Islam as a Deen, not as a purpose.

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Che Lewaney Gerzema, Gham Me Hejran Dai

Malamat Neyem Khalgo, Yaar Pe Ma Graan Dai

Although this hasn't got to do much with this Thread, but yet I would like to share a song sang for victims of Swat;

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Che Lewaney Gerzema, Gham Me Hejran Dai

Malamat Neyem Khalgo, Yaar Pe Ma Graan Dai

Pakistan Army should show no mercy to these terrorist Talibans a majority of whom are Afghani Hindus disguised as Talibans, go for them kill them. Kill Baitulla Mehsud and other infiltrators like him. Free Pakistan from these animals.
Long Live Pakistan, Long Live Pakistan Army.
Aymu

Be aware of the enemies

There is lots of proof that India is fully involve into Pakistan with
its terrorist actavities. Wondring why PPP is keep quite over that
Mad

	aymu wrote:
	Pakistan Army should show no mercy to these terrorist Talibans a majority of whom are Afghani Hindus disguised as Talibans, go for them kill them. Kill Baitulla Mehsud and other infiltrators like him. Free Pakistan from these animals. Long Live Pakistan, Long Live Pakistan Army. Aymu

You are simply putting shortcoming of pakisani gov or at least their policy gone wrong on the shoulder of Afghanistan. When the Taliban were in Afghanistan slaughtering people there was no complaint and word, but now there is all talk about it. Anyways, I have at least got one common point with you , to finish off the Taliban, no matter who they are.

so much evidence and this "jerk" govt. not using it to its advantage Embarassed

	mfaisalnadeem wrote:
	But Our govt is also part of this big game. Allah Pakistan par raham karay.

Durest farmaya mere dost durust, pakistan is fully responsible for it (100%)

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so now its crystal clear that these so called talibans are fighting to fullfil agenda of enemies of Islam Pakistan

	urfi67 wrote:
	so now its crystal clear that these so called talibans are fighting to fullfil agenda of enemies of Islam Pakistan

ye tum hi ho

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	@nline wrote:
	There is lots of proof that India is fully involve into Pakistan with its terrorist actavities. Wondring why PPP is keep quite over that

there is no proof if is, then come out to world, but I know well the Paki Govt. ye nahi karegi, bau agar esa kiya to America se IMDAD (BHIKH) kese milegi, no proof, no proof agar hai to samne lao, kisne roka hai, khehne se kuch nahi hota, proof it

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Its a shame that our Govt. is not bringing it out that India is involved in spreading terrorism in Pakistan. Even Us asked india to reduce their activity in Jalabad embassy, and now they have removed the name of inida from Liberty(Lahore) attacks as well soon after Zardaris meeting the Manmohan singh. I dont know how much or what india offered to Zardari to remove the allegations?

JO KUCH BHI HO RAHA HAI PAKISTAN MAIN.. SAB KE PEECHE INDIA AUR INDIAN SAB HAI ....

TUM SAB KI PADAISH KE PEECHE BHI HUM LOG HI HAI .. TENSION MAT KARO ..

AABA JAAN HAI HUM TUMHARE...!!

	@nline wrote:
	There is lots of proof that India is fully involve into Pakistan with its terrorist actavities. Wondring why PPP is keep quite over that

i agree.

	KHOTA_SINGH wrote:
	JO KUCH BHI HO RAHA HAI PAKISTAN MAIN.. SAB KE PEECHE INDIA AUR INDIAN SAB HAI .... TUM SAB KI PADAISH KE PEECHE BHI HUM LOG HI HAI .. TENSION MAT KARO .. AABA JAAN HAI AAP HUMAARE...!!

khothii sing Very Happy

tik kaha

India involve all the terrierriost activity with all the south asian country like Serilanka, Bangladesh.Pakistan, Afganisttan, Nepal, Bhutan now in Iran. Embarassed

KHOTA SINGH IS RIGHT, WHEN HE SAID THEY ARE THE BAAP OF ALL BECOZ THEIR FORE FATHERS ARE HINDUS AND THE SUBSEQUENT GENERATIONS MIGHT BE CONVERTS !!

	aimenqazi wrote:
	Even Us asked india to reduce their activity in Jalabad embassy

May I please know what you were trying to say here? Because if you are trying to say that India is creating tensions in Jalalabad, then you are absolutely wrong as Jalalabad is one of the most stable places in Afghanistan at the moment.

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	Albert wrote:
	KHOTA SINGH IS RIGHT, WHEN HE SAID THEY ARE THE BAAP OF ALL BECOZ THEIR FORE FATHERS ARE HINDUS AND THE SUBSEQUENT GENERATIONS MIGHT BE CONVERTS !!

Wow ther's a surpise..Khota and khoti are agreeing on something lol
Dumbass and yea pun intended... using all caps doesn't make you a human ..khoti is still khoti. I just learned that lol

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Alex9090 wrote:

	Albert wrote:
	KHOTA SINGH IS RIGHT, WHEN HE SAID THEY ARE THE BAAP OF ALL BECOZ THEIR FORE FATHERS ARE HINDUS AND THE SUBSEQUENT GENERATIONS MIGHT BE CONVERTS !!

Wow ther's a surpise..Khota and khoti are agreeing on something lol
Dumbass and yea pun intended... using all caps doesn't make you a human ..khoti is still khoti. I just learned that lol

yar tumhe dekhne ka koie shok nahi pls apni manhoos surat ko dafa karo dear, lanat

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