Bush = Musharraf ?

Dear Fellow Pakistanis:
The last 8 years of Bush have been marked by war-profiteering, embezzlement and poor financial policies. During the past 8 years we see similar situation in Pakistan. Therefore, I contend that what Bush has done USA, Musharraf has done even worse to Pakistan. Today, Pakistani economy is crippled and the situation is worsened by global energy & food crises.

Please share your comments on this issue.

Thanks

Please consult Mushytail for clearification.

Musharraf a true and loyal soldier of the US, ready to sacrifice every last drop of Pakistani Blood for the Stars n Stripes.

All our leaders are CORRUPT and our system is also CORRUPT. One way out, implementation of Shariat via KHILAFAT system.

I dont know much about Musharraf but Bush is an idiot. Did u know his approval rating was 28% last week. Bird flu has a better approval rating then Bush. If you guys want, we can send him to you because we are sick of this idiot. Smile

Best regards.

	sarahj wrote:
	I dont know much about Musharraf but Bush is an idiot. Did u know his approval rating was 28% last week. Bird flu has a better approval rating then Bush. If you guys want, we can send him to you because we are sick of this idiot. Best regards.

send him to mars as no country would accept idiots; especially Pakistan has already got an idiot much bigger than Bush so we dont feel any deficiency of idiots in Pak leadership.

Bush is a born idiot,there is no doubt about this see his credentials & a coward didn,t serve in Army against Vietnam.Mush is trying to copy & follow him,he is the only commando which has accomplished few of his assignment that against his own population(but wait let me ask,is he a Pakistani in real).A person whos ideal is Atta Turk you cannot expect much.A person full of inferiority complexes,gone & going to all extent to save his chair & serve his Masters more than he asked for.Character wise bothz Bush & Mush have similarity both are drinkers rather "Alcoholikers".In short we can say they are head & tail of one coin.

PS.Ugwaraich Green peace can agitate & protest against you.Why you want to pollute Mars?They are hazardious & injurious.

Bhai agar musharaf ullo hai tou zardari, nawaz sharif aur Mullay koi aasman say utray huay nahin hain. Inn kay daanay bhi puri qoum nay ginnay huyay hain.

Agar sachh hi boolna hai tou poora bolo.

To hell with all of them.

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"You are free- you are free to go to your temples mosques or any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE"... Jinnah, Aug 11th 1947.

	que10 wrote:
	Bhai agar musharaf ullo hai tou zardari, nawaz sharif aur Mullay koi aasman say utray huay nahin hain. Inn kay daanay bhi puri qoum nay ginnay huyay hain. Agar sachh hi boolna hai tou poora bolo. To hell with all of them.

confrontations again.

I dont understand why you are so critical of musharraf unless you have some relationship with him, as I see only a ratio of 1:100 on this forum for his support.

But anyways I dont see anyone talking about nawaz or zardari here in this thread; I dont see anyone proving zardari and nawaz innocent here as well; do you?

Despite I dont know what makes you trip over other leaders when no one is even talking about them. Try digesting the bitter truth.

Last edited by ugwaraich on Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:03 am; edited 1 time in total

ugwaraich wrote:

	que10 wrote:
	Bhai agar musharaf ullo hai tou zardari, nawaz sharif aur Mullay koi aasman say utray huay nahin hain. Inn kay daanay bhi puri qoum nay ginnay huyay hain. Agar sachh hi boolna hai tou poora bolo. To hell with all of them.

confrontations again.

I dont understand why you are so critical of musharraf unless you have some relationship with him, as I see only a ratio of 1:100 on this forum for his support.

But anyways I dont see anyone talking about nawaz or zardari here in this thread, do you?

Usman, I told you be4 bhai kay i could'nt care less about musharaf and my intention was not to be confrentational. The point is that 99% of the ppl who talk smack about him have some kind of political affiliation with one party or next. All i was saying if u r going to mention one evil, why protect the other. afterall, all of them have same mission and goal and that is thier own personel gain, dont u agree?

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"You are free- you are free to go to your temples mosques or any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE"... Jinnah, Aug 11th 1947.

que10 wrote:

ugwaraich wrote:

	que10 wrote:
	Bhai agar musharaf ullo hai tou zardari, nawaz sharif aur Mullay koi aasman say utray huay nahin hain. Inn kay daanay bhi puri qoum nay ginnay huyay hain. Agar sachh hi boolna hai tou poora bolo. To hell with all of them.

confrontations again.

I dont understand why you are so critical of musharraf unless you have some relationship with him, as I see only a ratio of 1:100 on this forum for his support.

But anyways I dont see anyone talking about nawaz or zardari here in this thread, do you?

Usman, I told you be4 bhai kay i could'nt care less about musharaf and my intention was not to be confrentational. The point is that 99% of the ppl who talk smack about him have some kind of political affiliation with one party or next. All i was saying if u r going to mention one evil, why protect the other. afterall, all of them have same mission and goal and that is thier own personel gain, dont u agree?

well mate it seems though that all my posts have been dumped into a bin. As I posted earlier that its not just Pakistanis who feel ashamed of the scars that musharraf brought onto Pak, its the majority of people from 20 foreign countries and this has been proved by some neutral authority, its not some personally engraved or designed idea but its the truth.

Secondly, my point was that no one was trying to prove zardari or nawaz innocent, but certainly I personally believe that killing your own citizens without any negotiations based on some foreign interests is much bigger crime than stealing money and corruption in your own country, try to understand the value and cost of human life as compared to all those corrupted money Pakistan lost to zardari or nawaz, for this reason if I am given choices I would prefer to go for nawaz and most preferably Imran Khan as atleast these people were not indulged in mass killing of our own citizens or even I would prefer zardari over musharraf.

Lastly, you cannot simply say that everyone who passes any arguement about musharraf here has some sort of political association, I dont agree with that, ok there might be 25% of people here who would go against musharraf for some political motivation but us overseas Pakistanis who have no connection to internal politics including myself are not agreeing to musharraf's policies.

I dont know if u heard or not but there was a suicide blast in islamabad not too far from where i used to live that took the lives of a lotta innocent ppl.Do u really wanna negotiate with these sorry excuses for human beings?

Not that it has anything to do with musharaf or anything.

But like i said, i could'nt care less about musharaf yaar. We as a nation have bigger issues.

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"You are free- you are free to go to your temples mosques or any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE"... Jinnah, Aug 11th 1947.

	que10 wrote:
	I dont know if u heard or not but there was a suicide blast in islamabad not too far from where i used to live that took the lives of a lotta innocent ppl.Do u really wanna negotiate with these sorry excuses for human beings? Not that it has anything to do with musharaf or anything. But like i said, i could'nt care less about musharaf yaar. We as a nation have bigger issues.

I heard about Islamabad bomb today, I am not denying that extremism is eating out roots but I have a different view point to see these issues.

1) All these bomb attacks happening even suicide bombs may not necessarily been carried out by taliban forces or extremists. There could be some other powers behind these attacks to destabilise Pakistan and to turn Pakistanis against so called talibans or tribal people and create an atmosphere of civil war. The suspected names of such forces are India, Israel and America, and trust me if I am in some agency, I can make you to carry out a suicide bomb and you can blow yourself up just the way I tell you to do, its very easy. Balochistan where indian forces have been really active is also another example of external forces which utilised the power of local balochi's there and exploited a liberation front movement against Pakistan govt, hence balochis stood up and turned against their own govt. to kill and get killed; the reason is because they were deprived of any amenities of life and they turned rebellion, india found it a good opportunity to exploit them against Pak and hence they achieved to some extent. India has been involved in balochistan liberation front case there are proofs of it, I am n ot just firing into the air; it is far likely that india and some external forces are involved in these bomb attacks.

2) I beleive that there is a factor of extremism in tribal areas or those areas closer to north west Pakistani border, this is possibly because of less education and less attention of Pakistani govt. to those areas creating sense of deprivation and hence producing rebellion groups. Now as I said in one of my other threads, you cannot stop this flood of extremism using guns and missiles, this is just IMPOSSIBLE, it will spread like a plague all over Pakistan if you try to solve it by war, the reason is that we have afghan refugees all over Pakistan, you need to understand the moods and behaviour of Pushtoons, they are very stubborn and they dont break their words, they are stiff and tough. especially they can do whatever keeps their identity and honour intact, raging war on these people would do nothing but create more people who will stand upto see our forces eye to eye and blow themselves up on the name of honour, their generations will fight against our army for their land and their liberation; hence you will see suicide bombings on much bigger scale all over Pakistan, because these refugees are all over. The only way to solve this problem is use political tactics, to compromise a little and to make them compromise, to show a bit of maturity and flexibility.

Well, a whole book can be written on this subject, but I havent got time to keep repeating myself.

We should only ask ourself one question when did this sort of a terrorism,violence & suicide bombing started.we should think that all the those people turned extreamests at once? is it the tendency of our own Pakistanis to reach this extent,we should atleast knows about our own people.So who is to be blamed for all this.we cannot deny that some of our brainwashed peopl are used in these incidents as a puppets but who are the real behind it & which ones are the supporting hands.If we believe that all those people were fanatics,Fundamentalists or brainwashed ones than they could plan everthing so intelligently.I cannot believe that any Muslim or pakistani no matter how bad he is can harm his own people if he is in senses.We should not be brainwashed by the western biased media & to devide ourselves in pro & contra.It is our duty & specially living in western countries to show our nationalism like them & not support the personalities rather our country & nation.We are not only condemning Musharraf Or Zardari (because if one is bad than other is automatically bad to spare & struck deal with) but also have written many times about Nawaz Sharrif,Maulana Fazl ur Rahman(The greediest) Chowdris etc & the wrondoings of them.We are supporters of Pakistan not belonging to any political party or having our personal like/dislikes or interest.We want to elaborate their crimes to show their real faces with reasons & proofs to the nation.We want totally change of our political scenario,system & political structure.I do not believe on giving chances to those proven Chors & corrupt "once thief is always thief".[/url]

Bush cant be equal to musharaf

coz kaafir aur munafiq main farq hota hai

munafiq jahanum k akhri darjay main hon gey

coz in ki waja se islam ko kuffar se ziada nuqsaan puhanchta hai

so bush cant be equal to musharaf ...

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Sarfaraz Ahmed
CA Finalist, MIIA (usa), B. Com
http://www.islamhouse.com/
http://www.fatwa-online.com/
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ln=urd
http://www.jamatuddawa.org/

Geo musharaf

ta k apni aankho se Islam ko pheltay aur puri duniya par rule kartay dekho ...

ALLAH tab tak tumhain mout na dey jab tak tum Islam ko puri duniya par rule kartay na dekho

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Sarfaraz Ahmed
CA Finalist, MIIA (usa), B. Com
http://www.islamhouse.com/
http://www.fatwa-online.com/
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ln=urd
http://www.jamatuddawa.org/

You are right the Munafiqeen & Murtadeen are worst than kafirs.Inshah Allah Islam bad khwahoh ki khwahishoh ke khilaf issi tarrah paltha phooltha rahe ga.Ye loag jinko aankheh hothe huwe andha kar diya gaya he,kaan hothe huwe behra kar diya gaya he aur in ke dil par mohr laga di gayi he kurrthe reh jaheh ge.

probably better to comapre like this
Musharraf = Bush's dog.

Waiting for a bone from his master and will wag his tail as and when required.

ugwaraich wrote:

	que10 wrote:
	Bhai agar musharaf ullo hai tou zardari, nawaz sharif aur Mullay koi aasman say utray huay nahin hain. Inn kay daanay bhi puri qoum nay ginnay huyay hain. Agar sachh hi boolna hai tou poora bolo. To hell with all of them.

confrontations again.

I dont understand why you are so critical of musharraf unless you have some relationship with him, as I see only a ratio of 1:100 on this forum for his support.

But anyways I dont see anyone talking about nawaz or zardari here in this thread; I dont see anyone proving zardari and nawaz innocent here as well; do you?

Despite I dont know what makes you trip over other leaders when no one is even talking about them. Try digesting the bitter truth.

Brother have you seen my avtar / poster it mentions all of them are corrupt including Fazlur Raham!!

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